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Gen V
May 13, 2010 3:02:02 GMT -5
Post by ch00beh on May 13, 2010 3:02:02 GMT -5
it turns into a bird
calling it.
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Gen V
May 13, 2010 5:39:45 GMT -5
Post by Yoshimitsu on May 13, 2010 5:39:45 GMT -5
Quoted from Cyonex on 'charms
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Gen V
May 13, 2010 8:03:04 GMT -5
Post by Kuroboom on May 13, 2010 8:03:04 GMT -5
Pork + Fire = Bacon.
I hope they bring in more ghost types. Also, we need a fire/water. Who cares if it'd just be a steam cloud.
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Gen V
May 13, 2010 17:38:44 GMT -5
Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on May 13, 2010 17:38:44 GMT -5
I think a fire bug would be pretty awesome.
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Gen V
May 14, 2010 2:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 14, 2010 2:58:18 GMT -5
I've actually heard rumors that they're implementing the rumor of the new triangle being psychic/dark/fighting (which would be fucking awesome) into the classics, so.... The rumor is that the final evolutions of the starters will be water/psychic, fire/dark, and grass/fighting.
Water/psyhic sounds like a slowbro rip-off (or maybe like with blaziken/infernape, we might get a better bulky water), but the other two sound like fun typings (although fire/dark is a HUGE bait for close combat, aura sphere, and vacuum wave)
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Gen V
May 14, 2010 18:52:43 GMT -5
Post by Yoshimitsu on May 14, 2010 18:52:43 GMT -5
I'd rather see another Grass/Psychic typing, tbh. I can't imagine they'd do Fire/Fighting again, so they'd have to make it Grass/Psychic, Water/Fighting, Fire/Dark if they were doing that. That's either very unlikely, due to the massive advantages each type would have over the next in the circle, or very likely due to the same reason.
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Gen V
May 16, 2010 0:57:04 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 16, 2010 0:57:04 GMT -5
Mmk. My buddy showed me some info that was released on the 16th regarding Gen V. Here: Update May 16: Compiled info of this week Grass starter: Grass snake pokemon Ability: Overgrow Rumored typing: Grass/Dark Fire starter: Fire pig pokemon Ability: Blaze Rumored typing: Fire/Psychic Water starter: Sea otter pokemon Ability: Torrent Rumored typing: Water/Fighting The male and female protagonists are older than the previous generations' protagonists. The sprites of pokemon in battle have more motions. The pokemon on our side now show their backs more. Pokémon Sunday has just aired and has shown that the battle system is as adaptive as we predicted. In battle, in a variety of instances, the camera will move around and zoom in/out as the situation dictates. In addition to that, as seen in screenshots, the sprites are animated so the battles are not going to be as static as they have been the last fourteen years. These animations take place when attacking and while waiting for the moves to be selected and not just when the Pokémon is put into battle. Click the picture to go to our Black & White section which contains all the information we know. Pokémon Sunday also showed footage of the market of Hiun City. In this area, lots of people are walking and moving around, some of them running. Several of them will speak while you walk through and others will walk around you as you're walking through the city. This shows further interactivity than before and shows the true scale of the Isshu region and Hiun City(courtesy of serebii.net) New Ability: Illusion Pokemon with this ability: Zorua, Zoroark Effect: This ability allows the Pokémon to change it's appearance. The name and appearance will change before Zorua and Zoroark enter the battle. New Attacks: Claw Sharpen: Raises the user's attack and accuracy stats. Trickery: This attack attacks the foe using the foe's own stats. How to obtain Zoroark: Pre-order the movie ticket for the 13th pokemon movie, you can download shiny Entei, shiny Raikou, and shiny Suicune. Using these shiny legendary beasts, you can encounter Zoroark in Pokemon Black and White. Zoroark will use his ability to transform into one of the legendary beast. You have to hit him multiple times until Zoroark changes back to its original form, then you can capture him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRGdfD6Z-A&feature=player_embedded#! www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGB2B2vALA&feature=player_embedded#! Next month's Coro Coro issue will bring us more new pokemon and how to obtain Zorua!!
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Gen V
May 16, 2010 1:08:55 GMT -5
Post by Beelzebibble on May 16, 2010 1:08:55 GMT -5
It is not a snake.
I don't care what the Japanese name's derivation is. Snakes do not have arms and legs.
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Gen V
May 16, 2010 1:48:46 GMT -5
Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on May 16, 2010 1:48:46 GMT -5
Even evolutionists say that snakes used to have limbs. Some snakes are said to even have leftover parts. I agree that snakes don't have arms and legs and as such it can't be a snake, but nothn says that it won't lose them as it evolves. Shoot I think that that's a pretty interesting concept actually.
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Gen V
May 16, 2010 14:44:53 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 16, 2010 14:44:53 GMT -5
Concept, yes. Interesting, indeed.
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Gen V
May 17, 2010 22:40:57 GMT -5
Post by Kuroboom on May 17, 2010 22:40:57 GMT -5
Snakes are elongate, legless, carnivorous reptiles of the suborder Serpentes that can be distinguished from legless lizards by their lack of eyelids and external ears.
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Gen V
May 22, 2010 22:31:34 GMT -5
Post by pokemaniactim on May 22, 2010 22:31:34 GMT -5
I am kind of excited for Gen V... I like the sea otter, but I dunno which starter I want. >_< I also like how the male and female characters are actually older than 10!
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Gen V
May 22, 2010 22:43:41 GMT -5
Post by Albatross Trevelyan on May 22, 2010 22:43:41 GMT -5
I will probably throw the starters somewhere off a cliff. The only ones that look halfway appealing is the Grass starter. The fire one is OK, and the water one is not cool at all... I'm sad. :[
I AM excited to see their evolutions and some of the new Pokemon.
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Gen V
May 22, 2010 23:48:23 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 22, 2010 23:48:23 GMT -5
The thing that I like the most is that their new typings are so strange yet so unique.
For example, the water one makes me think of a cross between slowbro and a machamp, and facing a slowbro that can fire off a calm mind equivalent of a STAB dynamicpunch is pretty damn scary.
But not just that. I'm looking forward to Gen V quite a bit because It's gonna be very fun to see how it'll change the competitive metagame. What kinds of beasts and weaklings shall be unleashed? Will there be anyone to rival Salamance's power and number of ways that it can be used? Will there be something that rivals Garchomp's power? Will there be a physical wall that will replace my favorite choice (vappy)? Will there be pokemon that rival the unique and novelty sets (such as a PressureDactyl)? Etc, etc, etc
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Gen V
May 23, 2010 13:08:03 GMT -5
Post by Albatross Trevelyan on May 23, 2010 13:08:03 GMT -5
I agree, Bladed Vengence.
I'm interested as to what kind of new moves and strategies that can be used in the game. I am personally hoping for some more awesome-tastic water types that I can train, such as a porpoise Pokemon--that isn't utterly retarded.
I hope they give some much needed evolutions to some of the basic Pokemon they have now, rather than continuing to add baby forms. Like Kecleon, Sableye, and Jynx to start.
I, personally and whole-heartedly am looking forward to Gen V, hardcore. I'm just hoping Game Freak/Pokemon/Nintendo/whoever-else doesn't F-u-c-it up.
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Gen V
May 23, 2010 16:57:04 GMT -5
Post by Kuroboom on May 23, 2010 16:57:04 GMT -5
Fuck complicated strategies. I like to pick my favorites and roll with them. What I'd really like is if they had customizable trainers like on Battle Revolutions.
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Gen V
May 23, 2010 22:38:11 GMT -5
Post by Tout-Perd on May 23, 2010 22:38:11 GMT -5
I'd mostly prefer a choosable trainer-class, but what can ya do? As is, these much nicer designs will keep me appeased for now.
I'm looking forwards to a better generation as a whole. Gen IV had some fun stuff, and really perfected a lot of the metagame, but it also had a very rushed feel and dumped a lot of crap on us. (Staraptor invalidates all other Normal-Flying pokes, Garchomp was game breaking, dozens of legendaries, etc.)
From what I'm seeing of this one, it seems more carefully planned out, and hopefully will help balance things again. Kinda like Gen II was to Gen I, a rebalancing and tweaking to get everything in order after a big shuffle.
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Gen V
May 24, 2010 2:41:27 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 24, 2010 2:41:27 GMT -5
As to the baby forms thing... Well... If they had actually contributed something to the pokemon (let's say pichu to the pikachu line with volt tackle and/or nasty plot) as opposed to simply being there to waste space (bonsly and fake tears. I mean... Really?!), then I wouldn't mind them too much. Oh and technically if it wasn't for the typing weaknesses, Jynx would be pretty widely used in the competitive. It's still fun to come across something that you don't see every day (like Jynx) and then get surprised to hell. But yeah. Sableye and keckleon need evolutions. It'd also be fun to see an evolution for tropius (hopefully with a better movepool....). But nevertheless, I've got pretty high hopes for Gen V. Oh btw, you can simply call me Shroud, if you wish =)
As to using favorites.... Yeah, team building is important, but.... I still love to use vappy over some other physical walls. Or hell, I made a team recently that's running a Crocune. I haven't come across a team running one of those in a long time now (and that turned out interesting...). Some pokemon I won't use on an OU team, but that doesn't mean that's the only type of teams that I'll make. The only tier that I've stayed away from so far has been ubers, but idrc. Anyway. Point being that I still like to use my favs, but at the same time, I prefer to use powerful and versatile pokemon.
Well... It was all good while it lasted. And while garchomp broke the metagame until he was banned to ubers, I had some teams where I did some novelty sets just to fuck around with people's minds. Hell, I had my own version of a ChainChomp for a WHILE before one ever showed up on shoddy. Lmao, once I even had the strangeness of having Dragon Claw/Poison Jab/Roar/Protect on a defensive one. Lol, decided to take advantage of his typing. Had quite a bit of fun XD. And the legendaries... Shaymin, I personally liked. Same with cressy and heatran. The rest...Where pretty bleh tbh. But yeah. I'm really REALLY hoping that they do Gen V very well and that it'll bring a ton of fun and everything else to the new metagame
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Gen V
May 24, 2010 5:15:20 GMT -5
Post by Kuroboom on May 24, 2010 5:15:20 GMT -5
I love Garchomp. I don't play competitively so I dunno what the hell you're talking about, but from what I've experienced, a solid special Ice attack will wipe his ass out.
My team is usually the fire starter, Garchomp, Lanturn, Scizor, Gengar, and the last slot has been filled by Alakazam, Gardevoir, and Tyranitar on Diamond, Platinum, and Silver respectively.
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Gen V
May 25, 2010 15:45:20 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 25, 2010 15:45:20 GMT -5
Well... In game, garchomp was a very different pokemon from the competitive garchomp. Ingame, he was a solid sweeper with awesome stats and a glaring ice weakness.
On the competitive level, though... His most common set, the yachechomp (basically a standard swords dance garchomp holding a yache berry) had a solution to that. For example, your opponent switches in their garchomp on you. You switch out in an attempt to counter him and stop him. On the turn that you switch out, garchomp uses swords dance for the +2 attack (a 2x multiplier). If the trainer thinks he can outspeed you, he'll swords dance again; if not, you're taking a +2 STAB outrage or earthquake to the face. You try to ice beam/HP [ice]/ice shard/ice punch him and the yache berry activates turning the 4x weakness to a simple 2x. Now what? Can you survive either a second outrage/earthquake or a +4 outrage/earthquake from him?
Also, if the garchomp turns out to not be a yachechomp and instead turns out to be a scarfchomp (garchomp + choice scarf) or bandchomp (garchomp + choice band), when you switch out, you're taking massive damage and possibly get outrun even with your counter in play.
Or worse yet, the rare but VERY effective ChainChomp (garchomp w/ leftovers or life orb or yache berry with draco meteor, fire blast, earthquake, and swords dance). Let's say, he switches in on you and when you switch out, he uses swords dance. Now, you're expecting a very powerful physical move to be launched at you, but instead of that, you get hit by a neutral draco meteor or a super effective fire blast. Now your physical wall is either dead or almost dead. Now what?
And not to mention, most garchomps in the competitive level were played on a team that had sandstorm in play. With gachomp's ability, attacks against him have lower accuracy. So... That ice beam? It's only got 80% accuracy now. Ice fang? 76%. Draco meteor or toxic? 72%. Will-o-wisp? 60%. etc, etc, etc. So... You miss with your counter move and end up dying.
And that's just the purely offensive sets
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Gen V
May 25, 2010 19:30:16 GMT -5
Post by Hamuu on May 25, 2010 19:30:16 GMT -5
I don't like the starters, I'm waiting to see later forms before I decide.
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Gen V
May 26, 2010 0:02:18 GMT -5
Post by pokemaniactim on May 26, 2010 0:02:18 GMT -5
Well, I wonder how they're going about the whole "reboot" thing, because black and white are supposed to be reboots, they say. I like how they even reverted back to colours, too.
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Gen V
May 26, 2010 0:38:46 GMT -5
Post by AngelicTragedy on May 26, 2010 0:38:46 GMT -5
I want the fire pig.
That is all.
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Gen V
May 26, 2010 4:27:22 GMT -5
Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on May 26, 2010 4:27:22 GMT -5
I think I'll take the "snake".
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Gen V
May 26, 2010 12:59:11 GMT -5
Post by Shrouded Wolf on May 26, 2010 12:59:11 GMT -5
I'll be taking the fire pig just because of my ingame playing style. I always solo with a 2nd pokemon in the back for double battles with exp. share and if the classical tradition continues (fire = fast sweeper; water = bulky sweeper; grass = tank/utility), then fire'll have to be my choice since it makes everything a lot faster and it makes it so that less money is wasted (after all, if you take the dude out before he can touch you, you'll be better off than having to take a hit and then hit back)
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Gen V
May 28, 2010 12:40:05 GMT -5
Post by Yoshimitsu on May 28, 2010 12:40:05 GMT -5
Seen the legendaries yet?
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