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Post by hermes on Aug 10, 2009 15:21:15 GMT -5
Dude, Photu, you're Mr Perfect. Only Kaz is worse off than you are. And maybe Prime, since whomever should kick the most ass dies quickly. My bite proof full combat suit and Duel Grenade Launchers disagree with that assessment. I can shoot around fucking CORNERS!
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 10, 2009 15:29:27 GMT -5
Hey, guys, although burning the bodies can, in fact, polute the water, isn't the zombie virus transferable through air, thus through breathing? No. If that was the case then nobody would worry about being bitten or scratched by a zombie. Even the water isn't really a worry, it's absorbing the dead particles before they've been broken down enough, or when there's too much. It's only the a problem when a concentrated amount enters the body, when it comes in contact with the blood stream, it doesn't need as much. The mouth, stomach, and other parts of the digestive tract are designed to destroy such things, so it's difficult to actually be affected by it through oral means. As for the contaminated water effecting plants, that's only if the plants absorb them. Even still, this would kill the plants off, so few people would eat them anyway.
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Post by ch00beh on Aug 10, 2009 17:08:15 GMT -5
That's a lot of assumptions.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 10, 2009 17:29:17 GMT -5
This is zombie stuff, it's almost entirely based on assumptions.
Are they fast or slow? Do they cause mutations, aside from reanimation? Does it effect animals aside from people? Does it effect water? Does it effect air? Will it wind up being like the undead in War3/FT?
Who knows? It's all left to the mind.
Personally, I'd say that it wouldn't effect animals aside from humans, they'd be fast if they had died VERY recently, because the inhibitors would be removed and they could increase in speed but, they'd slow down as time went on. Also, I don't think it'd create problems in the water or air unless it was very heavily concentrated. After all, there's things in both that exist to remove such things.
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Post by BlackCat on Aug 10, 2009 23:51:02 GMT -5
my zombie plan: go to alaska.
simple and easy ^^ i go there, they freeze, i knock them over, they shatter, voila!
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 11, 2009 1:43:49 GMT -5
That's not for the entire year though, and Alaska has a very short growing season. Plus during the winter you'd have to be able to go out and find the frozen ones and shatter them, then make it back to your shelter.
Yeah..... The problem is you're trading one danger for another.
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Post by hermes on Aug 11, 2009 9:50:40 GMT -5
I like my earlier plan of gathering people and munitions to the nearest large ship, such as a tanker. Then stock up, and head to hawaii. A) It probably won't have reached that area, and B) if it has, it has a limited population to deal with. You can either starve out the zombies, or pick them off. One the island is clear, live. The rest of the zombies on the planet will eventually die off, or sink themselves to the bottom of the ocean trying to get to you.
Simple Anti Infection Rules
Wear three layers of wool and a leather coat at all times.
Scarves are not only for winder.
Ski masks are cool, three of them are better. 8 makes you badass.
Steel toed boots are good for kicking, and also for not getting bitten in the fucking ankles.
Ancient Armor may look stupid, and be slightly heavy. But you'll get used to it, you can move in it surprisingly quickly, and steel plates/chain mesh are very very hard to bite through.
Not ancient armor takes the form of antishark armor, which can be found anywhere there are sharks. Sharks are everywhere, go find a marine supply store.
Belts are neato, make one out of sheet metal and sharpen the edges, wear it over another belt and be careful. In those of fuck, super tense situations, feel free to make liberal use of it.
Or on your kids ass, that'll learn em.
Spears are awesome, especially spears made of sharpened bone. Nothing like a weapon that your enemy will literally TRY to eat. Have fun ramming it through their throat.
Bibles will not help you, but they are heavy, and highly flammable.
God will not help you, but those crosses would melt down into nice bullets.
Velcro shoes/boots, or buckled boots. Never, EVER shoe laces. They can be grabbed, they make you die.
If she's topless, and hot, she's still a zombie, you fucking necrophiliac.
When showering, shotgun.
When bathing, toaster. (Better for suicide, there are not many positions more vulnerable than the fucking bathtub.)
Zombies pile up, your stairs will not be an eternal defence. Even a retard can walk up a fucking incline.
A human tooth through the eyeball of a zombie is just as effective as a bullet. Arm your children with slingshots.
Plant fireants around your camp. I bet the fuckers will eat a zombie just as readily as a human.
Check everyone for bites/wounds every two hours. We don't fucking like surprises you selfish prick!
If all else fails, drop a match and run like hell.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 11, 2009 10:22:03 GMT -5
I agree with some of those, though I can't say I like Hawaii..... Hawaii will probably wind up too crowded, since everyone will be fleeing to there to escape the zombie holocaust.
Personally, if I could get the right people, I wouldn't mind setting up a place on the main continent. create a w base and then slowly wall in a huge area around it, and start creating a city. Then just keep walling in new segments. No body goes out on their own, and any groups that separate from the main external force would have to radio in frequently.
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Post by hermes on Aug 11, 2009 10:31:35 GMT -5
I'd def go with an island. The main content is a far less sure bet, and what if they can infect animals? Get pecked by a fucking crow, a mole digs under the wall, and its game over.
Not only that, but your city/town will need a sewer system to avoid drowning in its own filth. Somehow I don't think you could create a zombie proof sewer system. What about zombie babies?
No, island is totally the best bet. And like I said, stake Hawaii out, let shit runs its course, pump a few bullets in there to be sure, THEN get on the island. Anyone that comes after that, thoroughly check them for infection. If they are, cap them and throw them in a vat of acid. Best be certain.
Also a virus that propigates and infects through biting, would more than likely survive oral consumption and proceed with infection. Your body is designed to fight actively against bacteria, you survive virus' by slowly becoming immune to them. This virus would obviously be a type that precludes immunity. If you could simply ingest a small portion and become a immune, it wouldn't be such a huge issue.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 11, 2009 11:51:40 GMT -5
If they can infect animals then the whole world is screwed. Remember, animals can get onto islands from the see. What're you going to do, create a wall to keep out everything? That sounds more difficult than a zombie proof sewer system.
It is possible to create a zombie proof sewer system, just difficult.
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Post by hermes on Aug 12, 2009 5:54:28 GMT -5
Seals can go from sea to land, and they are pretty goddamn pathetic on land. Plus an infected animal would need to catch a sea creature to infect it. Sea creatures are fast buggers, so I honestly doubt that seaborn infection would become a major issue. The sharks would have a feeding frenzy on the atrophieing zombies.
Or zombie crabs, which wouldn't survive a deep sea crossing to reach another continent. So yeah...
Honestly I think in the event of a zombie apocolypse, the whole world IS screwed. Its going to be a very small minority that survive. The strongest, most intelligent people, with the best aim, and level headed attitudes.
I think personally that on this site, the only people who would actually survive a zombie uprising would be...
Rupert, Lee, Bulbs, Choobeh, and myself. We're all level headed when the situation warrents it, tend to be overall fairly neutral, tend to stay calm, and with the exception of Choobeh, all have combat experience. (I think, Bulbs can you confirm that?) Though Lee would obviously have to be armed with a shotgun or a glock, cuz he has redneck aim.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 12, 2009 6:31:46 GMT -5
There's various species of turtles as well, not to mention birds that could easily fly the distance.
Oh, we could even through insects arachnids so on and so forth in. In which case, you have to set up a place that's air tight, and doesn't already have the things in it.
No, with animals, we're screwed. We'd have to leave the planet to rot. It's easier to just hope and pray that it only effects the human species.
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Post by ch00beh on Aug 12, 2009 12:32:34 GMT -5
Well if animals could get infected, you need to take into account their migratory patterns. They're not just gonna home in on the last bit of humans. They need to find them first.
Also, I'd probably get infected. I'm afraid of the dark, yo.
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Post by SV on Aug 13, 2009 2:45:00 GMT -5
Zombies move roughly at the normal human walking speed (i.e. not terribly fast). As the reanimated corpse decomposes, the zombie begins to fall apart, slowing it somewhat. The danger with zombies is that, rather than being visual creatures like humans, they use all their senses equally. Also, when they pursue something, they will pursue it relentlessly until they lose track of it...and even longer, sometimes.
PLEASE NOTE that as long as the brain remains in tact, a bodiless zombie head can still bite and infect.
No.
No. Although zombies will feed on animals when they can catch them, a bitten critter will not reanimate. Also note that wildlife flees from zombies.
The Solanum virus (which causes the zombie condition) is transferred through bodily fluids (i.e. zombie saliva entering the blood stream via bite). You cannot catch the virus via being in water in which zombies are/were or via air.
If everyone would just read The Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z... *sigh*
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 13, 2009 5:54:04 GMT -5
If everyone would just read The Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z... *sigh* Actually SV, I have read the Zombie Survival Guide. All I'm saying is that because we don't have anything to really go on outside of those books, we have no real clue as to what things would be like. I'm assuming you read the rest of my post, so you should already know what I'm inclined to believe.
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Post by SV on Aug 14, 2009 21:11:04 GMT -5
They'll be like they are in the books.
Eff your movie and video game zombies. Movies and video games are fictitious. Books? Books could teach Al Gore a lesson on being super-cereal. That's how serious they are.
Zombies are srs bznz. Max Brooks would not lead us astray.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Aug 14, 2009 21:27:39 GMT -5
Aw.... no "Dawn of the Dead" then?
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Post by hermes on Aug 22, 2009 20:41:25 GMT -5
Unless Max Brooks is secretly developing that vary Zombie slave race, and wishes to mislead us about their capacities. Which I think is far more likely. Max Brooks is obviously a zombie traitor.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Sept 27, 2009 18:31:21 GMT -5
Maybe, but a fair amount of it makes sense. The body would break down, and slow down, they'd retain their basic instincts, all that fun stuff.
Does anyone else have any ideas on what they'd do for a zombie survival plan? I mean as great as The Zombie Survival Guide is, since it's based on actual events you can't plan your stuff purely off of it. Personally I still like the idea of moving to a low population area and building fortifications.
Another thing that we haven't really mentioned is what to do if we're faced with Raiders. They'll eventually come around, either because they're following the zombie hoard and trying to find a new place to live, or because they're trying to stay in front of the zombie horde and are trying to just get the supplies they need to keep going.
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Mar 17, 2010 20:43:17 GMT -5
I hope everyone is doing their best to inform others about the Zombies. After all, it is Zombie Awarness month
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Post by Ninety on Apr 1, 2010 11:58:38 GMT -5
Not anymore it isn't.
I loved WWZ but hated all the redundant footnotes. Aside from those it was great. Blind Japanese guy kicking zombie ass is always a win in my book.
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