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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 25, 2015 12:51:42 GMT -5
Yesterday, I was mulling over the fact that I have a lot of characters I don't use, and I decided to take an inventory of my cast. I thought it might be helpful if we all did this, just to see what characters are out there, what ones are lurking around, and what ones have been put on a bus.
For my own cast: Character Tier: These are active characters I'm either making use of, planning to make use of, or trying to find a spot for, listed in order of general prestige/importance. They can actually carry plots and be a main focus of attention. Thyra Russell Miko Zebedee Taylor Emma Ray Jo McCrowley Sylvia "Nat" Ulima Garth Firbolg Nopcsa Didn't N!Qweba Almudena Madeiro Helen Mercury Blaise Euler May Grimaldi Adlai Flowerday
Supporting Character Tier: These characters don't really have much of a plot arc of their own. They're unlikely to take starring roles in RPs as a main character, but they may jump in as support or foils in plots focused around other parties. Lacianus "Lacy" Garrelcette Achenes Kendil Booker Maude Dalisay Salazar Maydell Shouse Rina Flowerday
NPC Tier: Characters that have no real prerogative to be used on their own, but can occasionally guest star in other plots if such an opportunity presents itself. These are not issues with the character, it's just that the narrative thrust is directed away from them and their machinations. They're much more likely to pop up as one-post guest stars than actual roles in a plot. Auguste Tylor George Buckland Nachoset Orville Giguere Aveiro Boniface The Terminer family I Ketut Topan Lepida
Semi-Retired: These are characters who I'm not really all that thrilled with, but might pull out if the occasion REALLY calls for it. Generally, my issue with them is figuring out what is actually compelling about them. Tsubota Joseph Rednael Berthold Verdigris Prilla Flora Isobel (though this doesn't mean anything bad for Whispers.)
Retired: Characters who I really can't see myself ever using again. Professor Elm (Seriously, 2002 Lee, what were you thinking?) Basilisk (Seriously, 2005 Lee, what were you thinking? I mean, seriously, making the arch-nemesis of your character being made of dark magic and evil, the two things Zebedee can basically tank all day?) Abatis (Cool idea, being able to karmically isolate his hands so he can dual-wield holy and demonic magics, but he has no thrust whatsoever, and the rest of the Order is much more fascinating.)
Guest Tier: Characters who I am autoing in absence of their proper authors. Emily Schwartzwald Haze Moore Isabelle
This is not a completely comprehensive list; I know I've got an arm long list of NPCs from Summoner Style/Shrinking Feeling/Triannual who are still valid, though not superstars, and with a cast as large as mine, it's likely I've forgotten a few important figures.
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Post by ch00beh on Nov 25, 2015 13:56:23 GMT -5
no one everyone dies
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Post by Beelzebibble on Nov 25, 2015 14:34:36 GMT -5
I assume by "listed in order of general prestige/importance" you mean listed in ascending order. For who in Lee's cast is more prestigious and important than ADLAI "FORGET-ME-NOT" FLOWERDAY?!
Okay okay I'll do this too.
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING A PERSON TIER: Terrian Brogue Deandre Clarks Yoon Mangjeol Commissioner Williams Renard Rouletabille
YOU COULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF A PERSON BUT GOOD TRY TIER: Cesare Giarrettiera Nico Giarrettiera Channery Keigler Inspector Landsvale Esther Damrosch Isara Leral
YOU'RE FUN TO BRING AROUND ONCE IN A WHILE, GOOD JOB, HOORAY, FUN TIER: Flo Pendlebury Hugh Oakshott Roufus Mayordomo
SOMEDAY YOU'LL MAKE IT INTO THE RP TIER: Justice Hooper Justice Staudt
WHO ARE YOU TIER: Masha Kolychev Misha Kolychev Victor Saybolt Charlotte St. George
NO, REALLY, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TIER: "Haywire" Hastings Pepijn Marquering Operator
ABANDONED SETTING TIER: Laksha Karttikeya Old Gideon McCrowley Lazarro Orsini Mark Rohr Flynn Sostenuto Quinn Sostenuto
I DREW YOU BUT YOU'VE NEVER APPEARED IN RP TIER: Ignacio Salazar-Valdez Buffy Meyer Mabel Courant
I DREW YOU BUT YOU ONLY APPEARED THAT ONE TIME IN SHOUTA'S DREAM SEQUENCE TIER: Ami Hanzomon Cole Severstal
OPENLY PONDERING YOUR RETIREMENT TIER: Charles Tanner
OPENLY PONDERING WHETHER YOUR NAME AND/OR YOUR ENTIRE CONCEPT ARE UNWORKABLE TIER: Shouta Minamoto
DEAD TIER: Franklin Gaussier Debbie Schoen Hwan Mangjeol Massimo Giarrettiera Inspector Davidson Vinnie Phil Dom Sikes Rowland Warren further assorted goons
DEAD, AND ALSO, HE WASN'T MY INVENTION IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT I STOLE HIM, I STOLE HIS CORPSE AND I MADE HIM MINE IN FLASHBACKS, I AM A THIEVING NECROMANCER TIER: Walter McPhearson
I'VE SMOKED SOME SHIT TIER: Rhometer Higgledy-Piggledy
DOG TIER: Micmac
ELEPHANT TIER: Ganesh
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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 25, 2015 15:24:27 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what drives you to retire Shouta and Tanner? I mean, I get Tanner, as I believe your issue with him is the same as my semi-retired cast; the character has no real arc or thrust, and works better as a footnote than an active participant. On the other hand, Shouta seems like he could be fun to throw into some plots, since he has such an alien morality to play around with. I mean, he's the kind of person who would mug somebody on the street because it looks like they might be holding onto some plot hooks, so it's pretty easy to drive him into all sorts of crazy situations.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Nov 25, 2015 16:37:00 GMT -5
Agreed with Lee - Shouta has a lot of potential to just be dropped into stuff. I'm still envisioning him and Antonio having to meet at some point. The only unrealised part of him is the same as what Lee says about Tanner - he doesn't seem to have a main motive. Not entirely sure that's an issue, though. He seems like a fun character to play around with for a while before you can cement what's driving him outside of videogames.
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Post by ch00beh on Nov 25, 2015 17:56:58 GMT -5
I don’t remember how it is that Shouta and Barclay were conceived of at approximately the same time. Was there something me and potato saw at the time? Was just copying the character idea? Who even knows.
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Post by Lady Kara on Nov 25, 2015 19:09:24 GMT -5
The Main Cast:Kara Asuka Tachikawa (Kinkaryoh) Sagami Hayashi Tachikawa Serpentei Kinkaryoh Nagisa Ethra'fel Davarrin Mains In Limbo (used to use them a lot; would love to again):Sazanami Vindahl Kamuro Hakkai (Vindahl by adoption) Shinsei Midoriyama (PRP-verse) Supporting Cast:Ayane Yoko Kinkaryoh Jiyuu Moeru Suigin Johshoh Haji Meiwaku (creepy doctor from LTR) Waiting In The Wings (characters I've had for years on other sites & could use on AE):Kara Kazeneko (Chrono Trigger universe; half-Mystic mercenary) Kataru Zohrell (Chrono Trigger universe; Mystic relative of Flea) Shinsei Wakaba (Bleach universe; so well-known she has fan art of her) Hikari Lorin (FF8 universe; first made on Pokeschool) Rinza Almasy (FF8 universe; main character of a collab fanfic 18 chapters long & currently unfinished) Kara Moonblade (LoZ: Ocarina of Time universe; a Sheikah warrior) Sahashti Seijafrei (brave-yet-stubborn princess of the horned elflike beings called Gelharanim) Ryo Gallahar (from an RP called "Sword Of The Night"; a being called a "Vamdreer"; one of the most successful RPs I've done outside of AE) Bemraphel "Bem" Kitterik (vampire mercenary, a.k.a. "schattenjaeger", who hunts douchebag vampires) Holly Jackson (Trigun & Wild ARMs universes) Shizumeru Kurushimi (Law of Ueki universe) Katherine Leblanc (Yu-Gi-Oh universe) Junko "Jun" Maverick (Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds universe) Karakuri (Yu Yu Hakusho universe; a kazenekojin demon) Raimei (Dragonball Z universe; half-saiyan, half-solarian) Sakuranbo Chihane (Rosario+Vampire universe; a shinzou-ryou) Kageshin (another shinzou-ryou) Alzarude Derrik (heart-obsessed vampire who lives in an abandoned hospital; sexy villain & creepy mofo) Some Random NPCs:Embrosia the Dynalion (Kara's most beloved Spirikin ally) Shinzohkatta (sword possessed by the soul of a Nintaku assassin nicknamed that) Semi-Retired Cast:Kurayami, the Shinzou-ryou king Mokuren Fuyubushi (if anyone wants to do Naruto-verse stuff again, I'll bring him back) Burmecian gal from the FF9 universe (don't remember if I gave her a name or not) Retired Cast: (don't have any retired yet) Guest Players:Michella Rei Tachikawa (my sister's old character from Pokeschool and younger sister of Kara; was a scientist for Team Rocket, and with the overhaul, I got permission to refer to her job as being that of a Spirikin researcher who works in a secret lab somewhere in Todoroki and Kara rarely sees her except during major holidays) Anything from the Dark World/Emerra made by Sunlight Blacksmith = Lyrians, Ku'nya, Maklin, Darmyrs, and Basilisks; also her own RP characters - Yoko Kit Hara, Sunphony Stormwind, Zoku Bochikage, Aidan Westwood, Shoko, and Kage (all of which I thankfully have text files on thanks to Sun once posting their info on an old RP forum we tried running)
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Post by Beelzebibble on Nov 25, 2015 19:47:24 GMT -5
That's a lot of syllables.
Shouta, I dunno, he's just this bonkers, ill-thought-out, and sort of offensive mess. Also, at the time I wrote his cameo scene in Ishkabibble, it was fairly novel for a character of mine to say "fuck" a bunch (because prior to Ish, I only had three and a half characters. Unless Laksha was already stomping around by then). Nowadays, not so much.
I wouldn't want to bring him back without rethinking him a lot (and that could start with dropping the yakuza connection, I don't need to drag in ANOTHER badly-researched crime organization). Tanner's in the same boat.
Did you come up with Barclay in late 2009, early 2010, Choobs? Because that was BACCANO TIME for me. Shouta takes after Graham Spector a bit.
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Post by ch00beh on Nov 25, 2015 20:38:36 GMT -5
I think it was slightly past the main baccano phase. I just know I wanted to make a gigantic weeaboo.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 25, 2015 20:53:18 GMT -5
Shouta has a lot going for him; his viewpoint, his motivation, his unpredictability, and so on. I can understand where you're coming from tho'. 'course, he hasn't actually interacted with anybody onscreen, so you still have a lot of room to change him.
Personally, I like the idea of him having videogame style respawns (albeit a limited, slowly refilling number. Like 1/day) It would make sense, if he continued popping back from horrible accidents he'd had as a child/teen, and then he plays a videogame for the first time, and he goes "this is me, this is what I've been going through... I'm the main fucking character!" And that's the foundation for his viewpoint.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 25, 2015 20:57:05 GMT -5
Bemraphel "Bem" Kitterik (vampire mercenary, a.k.a. "schattenjaeger", who hunts douchebag vampires) I'd always wondered where Ryuu and Aya had gone. We have Bem to thank for saving us.
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Post by ch00beh on Nov 25, 2015 21:05:21 GMT -5
nouns - Rie - Julia - Mandelbrot - Agent Price
ded - Ender - Love & Darling
i miss Love & Darling. I should not have killed them in my fiction writing class.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Nov 25, 2015 21:06:51 GMT -5
Bemraphel "Bem" Kitterik (vampire mercenary, a.k.a. "schattenjaeger", who hunts douchebag vampires) I'd always wondered where Ryuu and Aya had gone. We have Bem to thank for saving us. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE Anyway, I never imagined Shouta as a Power, but that's kind of brilliant.
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Post by Lady Kara on Nov 25, 2015 22:01:27 GMT -5
That's a lot of syllables. LOL. Also I've noticed that I tend to use the letters "K" and "Z" a lot in names. Oh well... just my thing I guess. And btw, for the record, just because a large majority of my OCs all have Japanese (or inspired from) names, they do have special meanings to them for symbolic reasons unique to each character. I try and put a decent amount of thought into their names, even if in the case of reusing some faves (like how I've got 3 characters named Kara). Though I admit it might be wise for me in the near future to make a few new ones that have non-Japanese names to make things feel less like a giant list of weebyness. XD Bemraphel "Bem" Kitterik (vampire mercenary, a.k.a. "schattenjaeger", who hunts douchebag vampires) I'd always wondered where Ryuu and Aya had gone. We have Bem to thank for saving us. I'm sure Bem would enjoy taking credit for that, and tell tales of it to friends. XD Fun facts: He may be a vampire, but tries his best not to show it and keeps a flask of blood in his coat for when truly thirsty... because most of the time he pretends to be a tipsy or drunk elf while at bars. He uses this to catch any potential prey off-guard and not let them know he's a Schattenjaeger, as well as use drunken fist techniques to throw them off further before unleashing the big moves and using both vampiric strength & enchanted weaponry to take them down. (man, oh how I'd love to get use out of him again; he's a fun character)
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Post by Beelzebibble on Nov 25, 2015 22:13:57 GMT -5
Though I admit it might be wise for me in the near future to make a few new ones that have non-Japanese names to make things feel less like a giant list of weebyness. XD To be more serious, I agree, that sounds like a really good idea. The dominating preponderance of Japanese makes it a little hard to keep your characters straight, for me at least. Though I understand their names would resonate more with someone who knew Japanese better. Um... Kara Windcat! Water... silver... Johshoh! Okay that's all I got. EDIT: Shinsei Purplemountain? No. Greenmountain.
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Post by SHADOWMASTER89 on Nov 25, 2015 22:26:11 GMT -5
I don’t really have any characters that have been around long enough for me to place them in tiers for main and supporting characters as most of them are just starting off. That being said I’m just going to use tiers of activity level and whether they have even appeared yet and whether they will appear sooner rather than later.
That being said...
ACTIVE CHARACTER TIER: ORP Habiba Romansky (Ucalegon) Talia Kane (Orientation)
REMORA Nariem (never settled on where he was originally from, but likely ORP universe)
AEON Triest (A Whisper from Beyond) Agrius Ivwyn (A Whisper from Beyond) Geleon Ogden (A Whisper from Beyond) Prince Cedric (The Crawling Shadows of War) Jagger (A Whisper from Beyond and The Crawling Shadows of War)
SOON TO APPEAR IN RP CHARACTER TIER: AEON Edwin Warwick King Arden Princess Edith Prince Morven Avon Garrick
also..
an unnamed orc Chieftain
and...
one of the Eternity Witches
MENTIONED IN RP CHARACTER TIER: AEON High King Theoros (king of Delrock, referred to by some as the Mad King) The Reaver King (emperor of the ancient Quixarian Empire, supposed immortal human) Iticus (member of the Council of Magical Affairs, specializes in enchanting)
WAITING FOR CERTAIN PLOTS OR FITTING PLOTS CHARACTER TIER: ORP Lucian (was slated to appear in Lee’s murder mystery on a boat RP, not sure where that’s at now) Wolfgang Brahms Jurgen Drexler The Beholder Elmira Dane and Hank Evans (power, non-power duo with a complicated relationship dynamic, don’t currently have any plans for these two as of now)
INACTIVE CHARACTER TIER PAST WHITEFALL UNIVERSE (possibly dead, haven’t decided yet, but definitely on the fence until Blood becomes more active) Dom Azira Jake Elena General Higgens
CYGNUS 9 (possible reboot for the Past Whitefall universe I had planned to do with the new guy I brought in, but it’s on the fence for right now) Darius Krine Samantha Novak
and...I think that’s all I’ve got for right now
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Post by Lady Kara on Nov 25, 2015 23:09:23 GMT -5
Though I admit it might be wise for me in the near future to make a few new ones that have non-Japanese names to make things feel less like a giant list of weebyness. XD To be more serious, I agree, that sounds like a really good idea. The dominating preponderance of Japanese makes it a little hard to keep your characters straight, for me at least. Though I understand their names would resonate more with someone who knew Japanese better. Um... Kara Windcat! Water... silver... Johshoh! Okay that's all I got. EDIT: Shinsei Purplemountain? No. Greenmountain. Ha... it's okay. And btw, Suigin means "Mercury", and the Japanese word for purple is "Murasaki". Actually, this sounds fun... show a few name meanings (though some might seem odd; there's deeper meaning to some beyond what their names are in English). (Btw, Kara and Michella's middle names are weeb puns; at the time back on Pokeschool when me and my sister came up with them, we were into Neon Genesis Evangelion. And their last name is the same as Mimi from Digimon, as well as Sagami got his name from a fave character who's from Tenchi Universe... I truly was a weeb back then...LOL) "Kara" means "Open", and I often view it as having an open mind and/or an open heart "Hayashi" means "Forest Grove", and is symbolic in how a grove can start out small and then grow greater and stronger together over time "Kinkaryoh" loosely means "Golden Hunter" and has deep symbolism unique to both Serpentei and his clan "Sazanami" means "Gentle Wave" and is symbolic of her inner strength/caring nature and being able to do great things despite thinking she isn't able "Shinsei Midoriyama" means "Sacred Green-mountain" and kind of a pun on how grass type pokemon are her top fave kinds "Jiyuu Moeru" means "Freedom Blaze" and is symbolic in how he's a firecracker of a hothead and craves freedom regardless of his safety or that of others "Suigin Johshoh" means "Mercury Ascension" and has deep meanings to him I've yet to reveal "Haji Meiwaku" means "Shameful Trouble" (Meiwaku can also mean "Annoyance" or "Inconvenience" as well) and was a fitting name for a guy I created to be massive trouble for Nagisa in LTR (and trouble as well for anyone else that he chooses to make his next target and victim) "Shinsei Wakaba" means "Sacred Young Leaf" and has very deep meanings for her as a character in several ways "Hikari" means "light" (as in the 'light of goodness' kind) and a pun on her using Thundaga magic "Shizumeru Kurushimi" means "Alleviate Suffering" and is symbolic in how her greatest dream is to cure her little brother from his bad health "Junko" means "Pure" and is symbolic of her being pure of heart and a caring person; also a fun pun when combined with her last name, Maverick "Karakuri" means "Mechanism" and has multiple meanings to it for her as a character "Raimei" means "Thunder" and is fitting since her power resembles lightning-energy and creates loud thunder-like noise when it hits targets "Sakuranbo Chihane" means "Cherry Bloodfeather" and is symbolic in both how he is nice as a cherry and because of his blood-red wings "Kageshin" means "Shadow Heart" and is symbolic of how much he strives to be a decent guy yet struggles with his demon nature/cravings "Shinzohkatta" basically means "heart cutter" and rather fitting for an asshole who's fond of cutting out victim's hearts "Kurayami" means "Absolute Darkness" and is a fitting name for an extremely evil and powerful fiend like him "Mokuren Fuyubushi" means "Magnolia Winterwarrior"; he has hair colored a bit like a magnolia and some of his ninjutsu and genjutsu moves are a bit magnolia-themed, and his last name is quite fitting for a ninja who's family is at home in wintery areas and badass at using snow & ice techniques Oh yeah... and - "shinzou-ryou" means "heart-hunter" (as in the organ itself, not metaphoricly); best name I could think of for demons who eat hearts
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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 26, 2015 2:08:59 GMT -5
BTW, what tier is Max Andurin?
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Post by Tout-Perd on Nov 26, 2015 12:10:17 GMT -5
I actually really like the concept behind Bem, and their name sounds kinda Hebrew-ish. Not to mention, I just rolled out a (Japanese) Vampire character in Moss, and Lady V is slated to roll out a high ranking vampire as well, so there very well may be room for Bemraphel to fit into the modern ORP landscape. (I may be getting ahead of myself, but it'd be fun to see Bem and V's vampire as recurring archenemies. Lady V vs. Lady Kara!) (I'm not sure if Silumas ever plans to revisit his vampire character. Who as I recall, was Zeb's first serious RP opponent, and ended a short fight by puncturing his lungs and leaving him to drown in blood. If Zebedee hadn't been hiding his powers, that would have been a very short career indeed!) Also, Shinsei is adorable! How old is Kara's baby, btw? I'm just curious, because depending, she might be around lower elementary age by now. (Doing a little follow up, in Hebrew, the closest name I could find to Bemraphel is "Ben-Raphael", which basically means "Son of the Archangel" or "Son of that Which God has Healed")
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Post by ch00beh on Nov 26, 2015 12:54:44 GMT -5
god tear obv
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Post by Lady Kara on Nov 26, 2015 19:44:40 GMT -5
I actually really like the concept behind Bem, and their name sounds kinda Hebrew-ish. Not to mention, I just rolled out a (Japanese) Vampire character in Moss, and Lady V is slated to roll out a high ranking vampire as well, so there very well may be room for Bemraphel to fit into the modern ORP landscape. (I may be getting ahead of myself, but it'd be fun to see Bem and V's vampire as recurring archenemies. Lady V vs. Lady Kara!) ("Ben-Raphael" = "Son of that Which God has Healed") That's pretty cool to hear. I wonder if Bem could fit in there somehow. I made him originally for a friend's modern-fantasy RP centered around a large tavern & inn that has mysterious travellers frequent it often, and Bem was one of the regulars since he had great luck in finding prey at that location and the folks who ran it (my friend's characters) were good friends and fond of him ridding them of trouble. HA HA HA! Epic that you figured out how I came up with his name. The latter of the two meanings you mentioned is what inspired it... because his father is the reason he became a schattenjaeger. His dad was formerly a vampire clanlord and it took losing his entire clan and almost dying (and of course going through plenty of other shit) for him to desire to change. And his path of reform was made even better by a chance meeting with a beautiful and powerful schattenjaeger who taught him the ways of her people (and later became Bem's mother...LOL). For a vampire once feared and hated by others to change his life so dramaticly and choose to protect innocent humanoids instead of hunting them, it's fitting to say that he was "divinely healed" from a dark past of being broken and vile. Also, Shinsei is adorable! Which Shinsei you referring to, though... the Soul Reaper? If her, then thanks. An old friend made that art (we're not really friends anymore, but I still appreciate it immensely how much she fell in love with Shinsei to go and make that pic for me; her personal fave part is that Shinsei wears a headband inspired by Ainu art [got more than that, but she didn't show it - Shinsei has tattoos all over her chest and her back that're inspired from the Ainu; and her Zanpakuto sword, Kodaimoriban, in bankai mode assumes the form of a massive Nekomata-like beast decorated in markings akin to her tattoos]). How old is Kara's baby, btw? I'm just curious, because depending, she might be around lower elementary age by now. Ayane, by the timeline in Mirror of Urakuni, is 7 years old. Keeping track of actual time that's passed since she was born, however, she'd be 12 (kinda glad ORP-verse times don't always follow real time).
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Post by Tout-Perd on Dec 9, 2015 14:28:56 GMT -5
I just realized that Ignacio shares a name with Dalisay (Salazar). What sort of ethnic background does Ignacio have, just out of curiosity? Just curious on if there's any chance of the two being related at all, or if it's just a cute coincidence (especially since Ignacio's first role was planned as upstaging Dace, and Dalisay's role is currently filling Dace's position until we figure out what we're doing with PRP).
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Post by Beelzebibble on Dec 9, 2015 14:33:20 GMT -5
Ignacio's Spanish as fuck. That work for you?
You can just go ahead and introduce a Karttikeya in the high school too while you're at it, das coo', das coo'
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Post by Tout-Perd on Dec 9, 2015 14:49:17 GMT -5
Dalisay's family is completely Filipino, but considering how that whole thing is (the thing being Spanish colonialism), it's entirely feasible that she's actually got some common ancestors with Ignacio.
And I don't think I'll do that, but there IS a pretty glaring lack of Indian characters in ORP. I'd initially assumed Kilik was of Indian origins, but I was wrong on that one (Gangully, Gangadharan, Giddananavar, Ginjupalli are all traditional Indian surnames, so Ginnungagap sounded like it might be an obscure one til I looked it up.)(And I'd assumed Kilik in Soul Calibur was Indian, due to his weapon being named Kali Yuga, which is derived from Sanskrit for "the age of vice)(oddly, according to Soul Calibur buffs, despite all his treasures being named in Sanskrit, he's actually Chinese?)
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Dec 9, 2015 15:06:33 GMT -5
(Soul Calibur Kilik is canonically chinese) (I think he's in a relationship with Xiangua?)
On a related note, I still subscribe to the theory that Antonio and Mickey are distantly related.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Dec 9, 2015 15:16:17 GMT -5
I love that theory too, and Antonio should probably avenge the death of his very distant cousin by stealing Huckabee's glasses.
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