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Post by Loogs on Dec 8, 2010 23:00:29 GMT -5
Achilles from the Iliad.
Or maybe Fernand and the other assholes from The Count of Monte Cristo.
Unless you guys can think of better contenders.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Dec 8, 2010 23:03:10 GMT -5
Holden Caulfield was not only an asshole himself, he has inspired a neverending series of real-life assholes who treat that piece of shit book like the Bible.
So boo to him.
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Post by Loogs on Dec 8, 2010 23:06:07 GMT -5
I haven't read Catcher yet so I wouldn't know. But it's on my bookshelf. I dunno. Books just kind of... appear in my house.
Oh I almost forgot Tom Buchanan. Hell, pretty much anyone from The Great Gatsby who wasn't the narrator (just about the only likeable character in that goddamn book) But Tom was the biggest asshole of them all.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Dec 8, 2010 23:26:07 GMT -5
Well, Gatsby's a jerk, but I didn't think he was that terrible of a guy. Mostly all comes down to terrible taste in women.
I remember reading a book "by" Piers Anthony (also known as "had him edit it, so they could sell another writer's crap"), where one of the villains genetically engineered giant crab monsters, enjoyed torturing/abusing anybody she could legally claim self-defense against, planned on eradicating humanity, somehow got her hands on buttloads of cocaine that she used to ENRAGE said crab monsters, and then intentionally manipulated one into ripping apart any poor schmuck she could get her hands on.
And then, in the end, instead of getting any consequences for disemboweling a kid, maiming several protagonists, and slaughtering the family of one of the leads, she gets away scott-free and is implied to become a billionaire while rendering anybody in the third-world sterile via manipulating the genes of a staple crop. So, it's mostly being a Karma Houdini that makes her terrible, not her actions itself. Those all are pretty acceptable fare for villains, even if they are unpleasant.
That Terrian Brogue guy is a pretty titanic jerk, too. I mean, have you guys ever READ Ishkabibble? He's all kneecapping innocent guys and stabbing police and EVERYTHING.
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Post by Loogs on Dec 8, 2010 23:33:02 GMT -5
That Terrian Brogue guy is a pretty titanic jerk, too. I mean, have you guys ever READ Ishkabibble? He's all kneecapping innocent guys and stabbing police and EVERYTHING. o i dunno brah that hector guy might have him beat i mean he cheats on his wife with like 100000000000000 different people and drinks like its going out of style seriously what a great example for that little girl of his huh but the biggest asshole in literature is that lee guy, man seriously all these guys look like saints compared to him srsly
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Post by ch00beh on Dec 9, 2010 5:02:03 GMT -5
I never got through Catcher in the Rye. I hate shithead protagonists.
There was this pokemon comic that someone recommended me. It's not really literature, but it's the last thing I tried reading with a shithead protagonist. He didn't care about battling but as "comedy" he got forced into it anyway, got mad and yelled at his charmander for getting the shit kicked out of it and not fighting back, basically kicked his charmander all the time after it lost due to his lack of caring about battles, was hot-blooded etc etc and didn't show any hint of changing, so I quit reading. Guy didn't even mean well.
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Post by Ninety on Dec 9, 2010 5:07:54 GMT -5
Judas was a pretty big asshole. Thirty pieces of silver and whatnot.
I like Catcher in the Rye but I still think it's way overhyped. Nine Stories is pretty great, though.
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Dec 9, 2010 10:00:12 GMT -5
Cornelius Hickey. Not only was he the biggest, he also had the biggest. hoo hoo hoo
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Post by Ninety on Dec 9, 2010 15:25:59 GMT -5
YES. FUCK HICKEY SO HARD.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Dec 9, 2010 21:14:42 GMT -5
Can't stand the Bible being listed as "Literature" all the time. If you don't want to treat it as a true document, it'd be more accurate to list it as "Mythology" instead, considering that it's basically the compiled folklore of the Hebrew people (and Christianity), as opposed to a work of fiction by a singular author.
That said, Judas wasn't that much of a jerk. He simply didn't GET what Jesus was saying, which is understandable, considering how intentionally obscure and misdirecting the man was. He understood Christ was the Messiah, but he understood it from the Orthodox Jew point of view, a great spiritual leader who would also be an earthly king bringing the Jews to dominance and prosperity and unparalelled oneness with God.
As such, he found Jesus' talking with widows, harlots, children, and the other underclass to be a waste of time. His viewpoint was that the Messiah was there to kick butt and take names, and Jesus wasn't kicking very much in the way of butt. So Judas betrayed him and staged the execution, figuring that it'd force Christ to start fighting back against the Romans, and overall, be the catalyst that tore down the Roman Empire and brought in the reign of Christ.
However, since Judas misunderstood what Christ had been talking about, holding onto wrongheaded notions of how HE wanted God/the Messiah's plan to be, this... well, isn't exactly what ended up happening.
Ooh, and for jerks in Pokemon Webcomics, anybody else ever read Pokemon X? The protagonist there is utterly unlikable, and he even comes with a Suekemon. (Alternate colored, special-move (as in a move that doesn't exist in the games) wielding, human language speaking, super-enhanced stat bearing Mightyena) The guy was "Hero" only by virtue of being a protagonist, was love interest for the female lead only via being the protagonist, etc. etc. etc. Not exactly a total jerk, but a waste of a character.
If somebody showed up in PRP with something like that, I think we'd probably laugh them right out the door. If they were serious, well, I'm envisioning Blood and I flipping coins to see who got to strike out the posts.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Dec 9, 2010 21:16:49 GMT -5
I have no idea how you could read more than a page of Pokemon X.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Dec 9, 2010 21:48:43 GMT -5
Pokemon X was terrible. I got to a battle scene and wanted to die.
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Dec 9, 2010 21:53:05 GMT -5
I'll be signing up for PRP tomorrow, then. =P
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Post by Tout-Perd on Dec 9, 2010 22:03:31 GMT -5
Pokemon X is only readable if you're too drunk/stoned/sleep deprived to actually read the text. Surprisingly, it's actually got a pretty rabid readership.
(Notice how on its trope page, every slight against the series has another bullet point protecting it. I didn't do much research, but either the author has a fragile ego, or he's got a fan with one.)
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Post by Kuroboom on Dec 12, 2010 16:52:59 GMT -5
Anyone up for some Sonichu then?
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Post by Beelzebibble on Dec 12, 2010 17:02:59 GMT -5
"Literature", Kuro. "Literature". Not "mental diarrhea".
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Post by Kuroboom on Dec 12, 2010 17:09:54 GMT -5
Diarrhea!? I think you're giving him way too much credit.
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