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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 16, 2008 15:32:50 GMT -5
First off, roles:
The Mafia Members were Aurora and Ocelot. The Godfather was Kuroboom. The Bodyguard was Vaxx. The Doctor was Pikachu. The Detective was Lee. The Vigilante was Hok. The Mayor was RLRL. The Brewer was Kazkame. The Miller was Cinders. The Ferryman was the Pope. The Coroner was Baboon. The Journalist was Lamby.
This game lasted 27 real-time days (from the beginning of the First Night on Dec 20 to today). So 2700 EP are in the pot. Pikachu gets 100 EP for saving someone (himself) successfully. Hok gets 100 EP for shooting someone (Vaxx) successfully. RLRL and Kuroboom both get 100 EP automatically because of their roles. This leaves 2300 EP to be divided among Kuroboom, Ocelot and Aurora. So each of them gets 766 EP (plus Kuroboom's extra 100).
When Aurora returns, he might consent to offer his prize to Vaxx instead, due to his prolonged (although fully justified!) absence and the fact that Vaxx was alive and active until almost the end.
I'll post my reflections on the game when I have a bit more time to do so. Feel free to post your own reflections as well.
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 16, 2008 16:00:02 GMT -5
How did Pika save himself? That messed me up so bad, cause the rules say he can't.
Anyways: Reflection on my game: Although it was a loss, I believe that I am the one who mainly caused the loss for the innocents, therefore I feel VERY accomplished in myself. I still firmly believe Kaz is mafia, I'm glad I was the reason for Cinders death, I needed to get my revenge somehow, and finally I was able to establish the jobs of 80% of the members before the end of the game. All in all, I think I did good. ^^
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Post by kazkame on Jan 16, 2008 16:13:21 GMT -5
WTF is wrong with you?
Seriously
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Post by Prof. Cinders on Jan 16, 2008 17:52:44 GMT -5
This Mafia game has to be the one that I lost my temper in most. >> Pope, you annoyed me so much! If you'd listen to what me, Kaz and Lamby were saying we could've won!
I found out Lamby was an Innocent pretty early on, btw. Hence why we were all banded together in our votes.
And Kuro, though you're fun to argue with, methinks you took it sliiiightly too seriously. >>"
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 16, 2008 18:55:24 GMT -5
Dont worry Cinders, you annoyed me even more ^^ What reason would I have for listening to you anyways? You provided no logic, reason or proof in your statements.
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Post by Kuroboom on Jan 16, 2008 19:19:13 GMT -5
And Kuro, though you're fun to argue with, methinks you took it sliiiightly too seriously. >>" I had to in this game. I was trying to kill you all. I do hope there are no hard feelings though. It was all part of getting into character, though I was pissed off on my own about Vaxx's death.
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Post by Prof. Cinders on Jan 16, 2008 20:28:29 GMT -5
Pope, if I put any of the actual logic behind my votes into my posts, I would've been killed off faster and put other Innocents more at risk as well. Not that you all needed a reason to kill off Kaz, since, yes, his entrance was rather unnecessarily gory.
Bah. Congrats anyway, Kuro, Ocelot, Auro. Nice to see I was right about who the Mafia were. ^^
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Post by Ocelot on Jan 16, 2008 21:54:43 GMT -5
Words cannot the describe the sense of accomplishment I feel right now. Even with the lack of a Mafia player we all as Mafia managed to deceive more than a few innocents plus the fact the innocents were just fodder out there.
Though there are not enough words for my victory, there are more than enough words just not enough time to express my frustration on how far down Mafia has gone. NOT ONCE did I see an once of creativity from anyone as far as an accusation. I was under the impression that Mafia is to be played as a sinister RP but Mafia IV has proven me wrong. I'm sick and tired of JUST the facts being said and voting. What happened to symbolism, metaphor, alliteration? WHAT HAPPENED TO IMAGINATION?! I think the soul of mafia has been lost at the price of competitiveness. Its a game everyone, so please play it like one and have fun. I felt like every time I posted I was criticized for being creative. I chose not to say "Kaz is lying about breaking into my computer. HE just looked at a list I made of potential mafia and is turning it into something else. Kaz is a chester and a lier. " and chose to play in character as a guy named Ocelot in a town that is slowly being killed by mafia. I hope that in the next mafia we will go back to RP and less competitive BULLSHIT!
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 16, 2008 22:00:49 GMT -5
I agree and disagree with this Ocelot. I agree that there should be more RPing to it, however I also believe that the competitiveness and strategy are another aspect to the fun. To bring this game to its full potential, I believe that people must have characters, possibly outrageous ones, however their characters must present the information the real life them has discovered, a perfect mix of this would prove to make a fun yet rewarding game.
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Post by Kuroboom on Jan 16, 2008 22:14:59 GMT -5
It was my first game so I'm sorry if I didn't meet your expectations.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 16, 2008 23:46:35 GMT -5
How did Pika save himself? That messed me up so bad, cause the rules say he can't. Uh... As multiple people can attest, the first couple of days of this game were beset by several technical errors on my part.
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 17, 2008 6:20:01 GMT -5
Heh, Ok ^^ Doesn't really matter, just threw me off. Really good job with the deaths this time btw Potato, once again you astound me with your creative genius.
I think everyone should thank Potato for his efforts and creativity. Being the host really is a stressful task.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 17, 2008 8:18:17 GMT -5
Well, I didn't have to be THAT creative... You guys supplied the death ideas, after all.
Although I'm beginning to plan a Super Smash Mafia game that will freaking blow your pants off creativity-wise. Just don't expect to see it until next summer-ish. In the meantime, I'd love to see a couple more people try their hands at Hosting, and Lee's Pokemon idea is still out there.
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Post by Krazy Glue on Jan 17, 2008 14:22:25 GMT -5
I just hated you all for voting me off, I mean I can see why seeing as Pohatu joked about making me mafia straight away as i'd been mafia each time, but still, it was really annoying seeing as I was the main person saying "lets start mafia again"
so yeah. I hate everyone that voted for me until the next game starts, or until I get drunk enough to forget mafia even exists (so, tomorrow)
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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 17, 2008 15:40:34 GMT -5
Did I say that? I hope that didn't actually make anyone think you must be a Mafia member.
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Post by EvilLamb101 on Jan 17, 2008 16:36:53 GMT -5
I don't like being the last innocent alive ^^" Kuro was scary more towards the end lol Congrats to the mafia
And Pope, I TOLD you the Ocelot was mafia and you didn't believe me!
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 17, 2008 17:36:27 GMT -5
Like I said, you gave me no REASON to believe you. Sorry.
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Post by Prof. Cinders on Jan 18, 2008 8:05:40 GMT -5
Like I said, you gave me no REASON to believe you. Sorry. Pope, if I put any of the actual logic behind my votes into my posts, I would've been killed off faster and put other Innocents more at risk as well. Same applies to those I was allied with.
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Post by Ocelot on Jan 18, 2008 12:09:10 GMT -5
So I thought I'd be the first to ask...when is the next mafia game? Considering that the board is partially active and I think Mafia IV was the closest this boards been to "active" status for a while, why dont we just start one very soon? We should of course have someone else host it(Babs?Lee?). So yea release date??
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 18, 2008 14:42:52 GMT -5
OR! Everyone can simply play the next game at Mafia time ^^ That way they get some new faces as well as the old
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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 18, 2008 14:50:34 GMT -5
Although I do quite like Mafia Time, I think Archie Exie should keep its own tradition of Mafia games as well. It seems appropriate for Archie Exie to run more complex games less often, while Mafia Time runs simpler (at least so far) games more frequently, and people from the two different communities can come over and participate in each others' games if the mood takes them. So, by that reasoning, I doubt Mafia V will begin quite so soon, although it's basically up to whoever wants to host it.
Incidentally, feedback time: How did the concept of "Deaths!" (that is, player and audience death suggestions) go down overall? That was the only really big thing Mafia IV introduced other than the three new roles, and I for my part think it was quite a success. I imagine people who want to run themed games (like Lee's Ancient Greek motif of Mafia III) might not want to use this system, since they'll probably have plenty of death ideas that fit the theme. But for future "generic" (themeless) Mafia games like this one, I expect their Hosts might appreciate the opportunity to give the rest of the board a chance to contribute some creative ideas.
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 18, 2008 15:37:59 GMT -5
To your first paragraph Potato, Mafia Time is only running the first game very basic, kinda like mafia 1. It's more of an introduction game, that way people dont feel to overwhelmed by the rules, which I have found happens when you try to start it up with a complex one. People are more likely to play if they already know how to and just have to add a little twist, at least from what I have observed.
Also, what is the point for the big gap in between the games? I mean, I could see if the host wanted a break, but if there is a new host... I dont know... it just seems to be the only thing that keeps this board going.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Jan 18, 2008 16:43:21 GMT -5
Also, what is the point for the big gap in between the games? I mean, I could see if the host wanted a break, but if there is a new host... I dont know... it just seems to be the only thing that keeps this board going. That's exactly what a lot of people are afraid of.
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Post by Ocelot on Jan 18, 2008 16:52:12 GMT -5
Well that fear is a sad fact. I want to say that this board is still successful but the truth is Mafia is the last thing its got going. I get so frustrated saying that I really do because this is my first forum and though I'm not a prominent member on it I feel vey connnected to it. I want the Exodus to live! If Mafia is the only way we can do that than I fully support it. I will not remove this forums feeding tube. Call it unethical but I'm selfish. The sooner the next Mafia game the longer we can have activity on this board. I say we aim for a Early-March signup, April Start. I think it will allow for a long enough break.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Jan 18, 2008 17:05:50 GMT -5
Excuse me, but I, for one, do still try to keep the boards alive. That is, I try to keep the RP forums alive more than anything. However, whenever I post a new RP or something, it never ever attracts any kind of attention. Hell, the best thing I posted recently was asking whether Kuja used to be female or not. So yeah. Either start posting more or shut up, in a word or seven.
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Post by Popebenedict on Jan 18, 2008 17:55:26 GMT -5
Try is the key words in your statements
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