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Post by Yoshimitsu on Jan 29, 2016 20:49:31 GMT -5
yeah I like using old memes for stuff.
So, here's the idea. Post a statement that you think is canon in RP, and then you can either confirm yourself (if it's your characters) whether it should be considered canon, or confirm that it's not canon. Just a bit of fun, but it could also delve into past stuff we never had a chance to establish.
I'm gonna start with some obvious stuff from my characters.
CANON OR NAH: Yoshimitsu and Vincent were in a relationship.
Canon because despite the fact that they never actually stated it in RP, they were a couple.
CANON OR NAH: Did Tiamat go to Hector instead of Vincent because Tiamat thought Hector was more worthy, Tiamat Blade aside?
Canon I might have been about 12 when we did the whole Bahamut/Tiamat thing, but in reflection, yes. Vincent at the time was an angsty teenager who only wanted to one-up his chosen rival of Yoshimitsu. Between that happening and Hector nowadays, it's pretty clear that Hector deserved the summon.
(shitposting) CANON OR NAH: Did Yoshimitsu and Prime ever hook up?
Nah. There was a shitload of subtext surrounding this, but it was never a thing. Yoshi and Prime alternately butted heads or agreed with stuff, but there was never any sexual context for any of it. And if there was, there was never any sex for any of it. Given that this was in the period of Vincent being grimdark and Yoshi not getting any, I'm sure we can all agree that this is a tragedy for Yoshi. Even if his choice of partners was questionable.
SOME FOR YOU GUYS:
Lee: CANON OR NAH: Did Antonio actually raid the Fascere Order?
Pohatu: CANON OR NAH: Terrian (or one of his duplicates) legitimately is or was attracted to Nopcsa at some point?
ch00bs: Rie's suicide attempt was because she was genuinely heartbroken about Ender's death, insofar as she legit loved him romantically?
Lee though she isn't your character: Emily's cheery disposition is actually due to some unrevealed emotional trauma? She can join the woobies.
Yeah I couldn't really think of any good examples. It was a great idea in theory and I'm still rolling with it
Edit: You can HARD PASS if the CANON OR NAH has spoilers, is a plot relevant thing, that sort of stuff.
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Post by ch00beh on Jan 29, 2016 21:44:54 GMT -5
Rie had no romantic interest, but Ender was the only person she was emotionally connected with.
Pohatu: Terrian has made out with a duplicate and has two memories of the experience
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Post by Tout-Perd on Jan 30, 2016 13:22:01 GMT -5
Antonio HAS raided the Auguste Tylor's holdings. I'm not sure if it was Order proper, since they're very combat ready and would likely stabbify Antonio if he turned up there, but Auguste's private holdings or unmanned stockpiles are entirely feasible. It's also been bandied around that Antonio may have been part of Helen's raid on the Parmigianino Institute, likely in Damien's place, if we ever redo Chords.
As for Emily, I'm going to state that Clicker and I keep her aggressively ambiguous. I want every reader to decide for themselves if Emily's Pinky Pie moonlighting as a mercenary, or a mercenary who uses her giddy side to obscure her very effective and pragmatic side, or some blend of the two, or even just that she's a very off kilter person who just enjoys both equally as hobbies or such. TBH, til Moose came along, I kinda shipped her with Mayordomo because it'd be fun to play the two off eachother, but they may be too similar.
The other big aggressively ambiguous thing in my cast is Didn't's... nature. She could be a Time Lord, or she could be a temporal anomaly, or she could be some sort of eternal deific being that has lost its mind... As I mentioned to Pohatu when talking about a future plot, it's entirely possible that she's actually an immortal being from primeval times, and it's just her MIND that jumps around, bringing critters with it.
CANON OR NAH: Photu: Nico or Yoon has suspicions regarding the circumstances of Massimo's death.
CANON OR NAH: Choobs: Natalie and Ender were never married. (My personal take is Natalie proposed getting married, but Ender declined since he knew his days were extremely numbered and didn't want to make Natalie a widow.)
CANON OR NAH: Choobs: Nopcsa knows that Julia is Mandelbrot, and may now be blackmailing her. (If we're okay with Nopnop knowing, I kinda want to do a super-intense negotiation scene between them, either as part of Ish, or a postlude RP like Burgled Boullogne.)
CANON OR NAH: El: Illiana has some childhood experience that made it so the Summoner indoctrination never really sunk in.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Jan 30, 2016 13:30:34 GMT -5
CANON OR NAH: Nopcsa made a pass at Natalie after Triannual/End Game.
CANON. Yup, my crack shipping contest entry is canon. I need to write it out, but Nopcsa did show up in Cherrygrove and attempt to flirt with Nat after Ender died. Up to you guys' interpretation on if he actually WAS interested in her, was just trying to hurt her and piss on Ender's grave after they humiliated him and the Order, or was doing it to get a rise out of her and reignite her hatred of the Order (after all, Natalie's most hated faction these days is the Order of the Mamba, which is powerful and aggressive enough that the Fascere Order proper is concerned with the possibility of a hostile takeover.)
If we have another four or five days where I can write and nobody gives me material to post in, I may very well write that scene out.
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Post by ch00beh on Jan 30, 2016 13:40:00 GMT -5
Ya Ender and Nat never married.
Nopcsa can know that Julia is M after seeing her face. He should never have figured it out from reading her mind though since the hypnotism shards sections off, and Julia herself has anti psychic training. I am pretty sure hypnotism doesn't work this way but w/e
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Post by Loogs on Jan 30, 2016 14:24:35 GMT -5
I think I know the answer to this one, at least on my end, but I want to see the other side of the coin (and for everyone else's benefit),
CANON OR NAH - elliot: HectorxYoshi, was it canon all along? And to what extent? Back in the day I think it was more of a joke thing, but coming back to it as mature adults it feels like maybe it wasn't such a joke after all. In any case, it is a 100% canon friend-ways platonic ship, buuuuuut here's an opportunity to do a little retconning, if we want
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Jan 30, 2016 14:55:43 GMT -5
I think I know the answer to this one, at least on my end, but I want to see the other side of the coin (and for everyone else's benefit), CANON OR NAH - elliot: HectorxYoshi, was it canon all along? And to what extent? Back in the day I think it was more of a joke thing, but coming back to it as mature adults it feels like maybe it wasn't such a joke after all. In any case, it is a 100% canon friend-ways platonic ship, buuuuuut here's an opportunity to do a little retconning, if we want My personal opinion on it is that there was a lot of ship-teasing between the two, and I always had the impression there was a lot of lingering sexual tension between the two, but it never really came to a head due to Yoshi's drama with Vincent and Hector's drama with having a kit. So if their respective drama had never happened, something between YoshixHector (ship name: Fire Starters?) could have been a canon thing. So in summary, semi-canon? Don't you love how I managed to answer the question without actually answering the question.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Jan 30, 2016 19:00:53 GMT -5
CANON OR NAH: El: Illiana has some childhood experience that made it so the Summoner indoctrination never really sunk in. I'm going to counter your CANON OR NAH with another CANON OR NAH Lee: CANON OR NAH: The government or equivalent in the South Pole Summoners have hordes of stock summons that are supposed to be supplied when a summoner hits the right age to gain their main summon. This stems from the fact that SPS all seem, so far, to have two basic summons - a wyvern or a giant spider. This is also on the tail end of you saying to me at some point in the past that the SPS have a very limited number of summon options when they come of age (this was early Illiana conception days, so we're talking about 6 years ago).
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Jan 30, 2016 19:03:33 GMT -5
Got another one
Pohatu: CANON OR NAH: When Terrian makes a duplicate, each duplicate embodies an aspect of him slightly more. We're talking he makes a duplicate and it has a bit more pride than the original does, or he makes one that's a bit more remorseful. Not enough to significantly impact the duplicate but enough to warrant a passing comment.
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Post by Tout-Perd on Jan 30, 2016 21:01:31 GMT -5
Summoners are given a pretty moderate variety of basic summons when they first complete training, and proved they've earned it. The ones that we know of so far are wyverns (though Miko actually didn't START with his), giant spiders (like Tsubota), or giant black earthworms, bigger than anacondas, called Minhocao (I'd guess they were stolen from South America, and then cultivated in their massive cavern networks beneath the permaforst). Miko actually started out with a worm; they're the most common starting summon, and are used for meat as well. It's a rite of passage for Summoners that started with Minhocao to butcher their first summon if/when they graduate to a stronger beast and make a meal for their allies from it (thus the wormsteak comment on formspring years ago). There might be a few other options, but those are the only ones they actually can cultivate natively (spiders and worms in the caverns, whereas Wyverns presumably have island rookeries at the fringes of summoner territory.)
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Post by Beelzebibble on Feb 1, 2016 8:48:38 GMT -5
Pohatu: CANON OR NAH: Terrian (or one of his duplicates) legitimately is or was attracted to Nopcsa at some point? I know this is a pretty well-liked little ship, but the boring truth is, I've never written the Terrian end of it as though there were any attraction there, just a jokey friendship. So I would feel bad about dropping a CANON here and scoring some progressive points where they're not really deserved. (And I'm hungry for them progressive points so you know this isn't easy.) Provisionally it's got to be a NAH, or I'm lying to you guys. Not a guarantee of the future though. Pohatu: CANON OR NAH: When Terrian makes a duplicate, each duplicate embodies an aspect of him slightly more. We're talking he makes a duplicate and it has a bit more pride than the original does, or he makes one that's a bit more remorseful. Not enough to significantly impact the duplicate but enough to warrant a passing comment. SEMI-CANON. Doesn't happen right away, but it's been established that a duplicate who spends enough time on his own will develop a personality recognizably different from Terrian's (cf. Alpha), and you could argue that that's not so much making up new traits wholesale as it is just exaggerating tendencies of the original. CANON OR NAH: Photu: Nico or Yoon has suspicions regarding the circumstances of Massimo's death. I guess we'd better finish up Ishkabibble and see!
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Post by Tout-Perd on Feb 1, 2016 10:53:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always written TerriaNop as another ambiguous thing. Are they friends, a "bromance", or an actual potential romance? I don't think I'd ever give a conclusive answer. It COULD be a thing, but Clippyshipping is a much stronger ship,
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Post by Tout-Perd on Feb 1, 2016 11:01:02 GMT -5
ITT where people ask "Are our characters gay together?" Response:
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 1, 2016 11:32:24 GMT -5
And I'm just sat in the corner like
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Post by Loogs on Feb 2, 2016 18:16:35 GMT -5
taking this one to the thread from the shoutbox:
"CANON OR NAH: Yoshi and Hector used to sext and, despite never being an actual couple, would sometimes meet up for fun times!"
CONFIRMED, sorta. Hector's never been one for cell phones but he probably exchanged some really smutty letters and a dick pic or two. probably pulls them out for those times when he needs to get in a really good wank
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 2, 2016 18:20:35 GMT -5
taking this one to the thread from the shoutbox: "CANON OR NAH: Yoshi and Hector used to sext and, despite never being an actual couple, would sometimes meet up for fun times!" CONFIRMED, sorta. Hector's never been one for cell phones but he probably exchanged some really smutty letters and a dick pic or two. probably pulls them out for those times when he needs to get in a really good wankI'm calling it CANON because it's pretty in-character for the pair of them, since they met as teenagers and that's a whole thing. However, post-Exploration (and post-Hector hiatus, I guess?), it's not a thing that happens at all. Yoshimitsu just lost Vincent and Hector has a kid, so it happened up until they were 18 or so, and then stopped. From Yoshi's perspective anyway. Hello, the worst explained thing in human history, written by me!
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Post by Loogs on Feb 2, 2016 18:26:09 GMT -5
It probably even happened more frequently in clandestine in the last years or so once Hector's troubles with Vathalé/the Summoners/semi-domestic life started.
here's a good one for some food-for-thought:
CANON OR NAH: Hector actually lost his virginity to Yoshi and not Vathalé, and only the two of them know.
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 3, 2016 17:40:33 GMT -5
I never thought posting a gif would actually make the thread more gay. I want an award.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Feb 3, 2016 17:46:11 GMT -5
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Post by Yoshimitsu on Feb 3, 2016 17:48:41 GMT -5
You gay me! You really gay me! Also thanks God bye
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Post by Loogs on Feb 3, 2016 21:27:31 GMT -5
petition to change elliot's title to "[HASH]1 Gay"
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Post by AngelicTragedy on Feb 3, 2016 23:19:13 GMT -5
Loogs!
Canon or Nah: I own Opelia now as she's married to Valon and you may or may not remember that she exists.
Kinda meta-canon, but whatevs
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Post by Loogs on Feb 3, 2016 23:22:12 GMT -5
Loogs! Canon or Nah: I own Opelia now as she's married to Valon and you may or may not remember that she exists. Kinda meta-canon, but whatevs what!!! buddy I thought you forgot about Opilia, i asked Lee about it like really recently you can keep her now with the condition that we do some kind of plot involving Nadeshi/Kalar sometime
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Post by AngelicTragedy on Feb 3, 2016 23:27:14 GMT -5
Gay up deal. I don't plan on doing anything super crazy with her as I don't remember much about her but she's going to be used a bit in my upcoming thread.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Feb 3, 2016 23:40:24 GMT -5
You're missing the point of this thread, DL.
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Post by AngelicTragedy on Feb 3, 2016 23:42:08 GMT -5
I don't know what you're talking about....
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