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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Sept 20, 2010 1:49:53 GMT -5
never mind i was recalling Age of Mythology ololo because everything about this game was FACT
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Post by {WW}BetaBloodWolf7 on Sept 20, 2010 2:06:24 GMT -5
I know, but still it has to do with dragons.
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Post by Prime on Sept 20, 2010 3:13:34 GMT -5
Yay, so I like dragons, and I've had, what, two or three topics with dragons in them? My characters are not dragons, nor do they have pet dragons, nor are they dragon riders...
I think you just hate dragons.
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 11:14:46 GMT -5
It's Nidhogg. Well, the anglicization is Nidhogg. The actual spelling is Níðhöggr.
Where do you think choobs and I got our Aleta names? Norse mythology is dope.
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Post by ch00beh on Sept 20, 2010 11:17:01 GMT -5
Ok, Níðhöggr is fucking badass.
Something in Aleta needs that name, stat.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 11:47:20 GMT -5
Wait. For something about magical knowledge, you're going to take the name of a dumbass brainless dragon who gnawed on tree roots for a living?
I mean it's okay for you not to pick the poll winner because you didn't explicitly say you were going to go with whatever won, but Nidhogg is still a weird name choice given the intention. And Norse mythology is played right the fuck out. That's right, Pohatu is disavowing Norse mythology. You know who ruined Norse mythology? Tolkien. Thanks, Tolkien. Thanks for watering down the magic and might of Norse mythology with your little story about dwarves and elves. Christopher Paolini only did what he did because of you. (And George Lucas, but if it hadn't been for Tolkien, the Inheritance Cycle would have been set in space and no harm done.)
I liked "Aspects of the Sun" because of a vague Mesoamerican vibe I got from it that I can now attribute to the phonetic similarity of "Aspects" and "Aztecs" and to the Inca title "Kingdom of the Sun". Like I said, you're clearly not actually bound to "Aspects of the Sun" just because it's leading the poll, but I think that name is a damn sight better than "Nidhogg" in its own right.
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Post by Prime on Sept 20, 2010 12:30:26 GMT -5
Ok, first, Lord of the Rings is awesome. I know you didn't just diss Tolkien, because the fires you just started herald the witchhunt. I'm sure you recall the Salem Witch Hunts.
Second, you do realize I'm Norse right?
Third, did you take the time to look up Nithogg before dissing it?
Fourth, your opinion about Aspects of the Sun has assured that I shall never use it. Kingdom of the Sun is a step away from Kingdom of Heaven, and I don't have any interest in linking these guys to organized religion.
Fifth, you did not just diss Tolkien!
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 12:31:56 GMT -5
If I'd never done my research on Nidhogg, how would I know he's a dumbass brainless dragon who gnawed on tree roots for a living?
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Sept 20, 2010 12:35:19 GMT -5
Yeah but look man he totally ate corpses and stuff and he exchanged insults (via a legendary squirrel, no less) with some eagle that hangs out at the top of the tree.
It's like Monkey Island, but with GODS.
Why can't he just call it a wyrm and everybody's happy
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 12:52:57 GMT -5
yes, the colour Azure and my characters tend to be occasionally be associated. If you prefer I describe a 'lightish blue, blending effortlessly into a clear, indominable sky" or whatever... I actually would prefer that since the latter gives the reader a clearer and more intense image than simply "azure." Sure, azure gets the point across but it's a cop-out, if you ask me. I've seen you do some really good things with your imagery but you hold yourself back when you go for the easy route. Very good. Good, but could be better. There's a clear picture here but certain things keep the reader from being fully engrossed. You use the simile "pulsing [...] like waves" twice in one paragraph. First, I'd like if you had extended the simile a little more. "Pulsing like waves in a tempestuous sea," or "pulsing like waves across the bodies of lovers lying on a starlit beach," or something along those lines. It's a little addition but it adds a level of depth that was only hinted at before. You could then drop the second simile and just have it be "They were covered with the same white trees, the same ripples of light," or a similar line of thought. Second, you don't have to say that the forest "wasn't normal in any regard." The coming description would show that the forest was abnormal. Like Mark Twain said, don't tell us the old woman screamed; drag her out in the street and let her scream. Also I suppose I should nitpick your spelling and grammar (it's "trees" for the plural. "Tree's" means it belongs to the trees, e.g. "The tree's leaves fell underneath the trees.") but that just comes from proofreading. You have it in you; just let it loose!
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Post by ch00beh on Sept 20, 2010 13:03:19 GMT -5
"AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHH!" screamed the old lady.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 13:27:30 GMT -5
Like Mark Twain said, don't tell us the old woman screamed; drag her out in the street and let her scream. Oh my god.
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Sept 20, 2010 14:17:54 GMT -5
Like Mark Twain said, don't tell us the old woman screamed; drag her out in the street and let her scream. Oh my god. DESTINY.
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 15:01:31 GMT -5
Like Mark Twain said, don't tell us the old woman screamed; drag her out in the street and let her scream. Oh my god. Choobs tells me you said screams are impossible to render without looking ridiculous. I say nay, good sir! But really, I've always interpreted that quote as not being so much about screaming as it is about using images and syntax to convey an emotion or an idea. Doesn't the latter half of that quote show so much more than the former? They both get the same point across but one does that and then some. I was critiquing one of choob's posts earlier and was trying to get him to keep the structure of a sentence because of the connections the reader would draw from it. He could have said it explicitly later on but by simply arranging the sentence in a certain way he sent the same message with more subtlety, albeit with a more powerful effect. I want to hear more of your thoughts on the matter! Also, you should get an IM client that isn't Pesterchum.
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Post by Prime on Sept 20, 2010 15:13:04 GMT -5
Ok, that was a bad example, I sound sick when I overdescribe things.
So um anyways, I really do have yet to come up with a name for this organization...So feel free to plow ahead with anymore suggestions.
As for Pohatu, Nothogg is trapped below the world tree, eating away at its roots towards its freedom. And when the time comes that at last it breaks free, and its shadowy wings spread across the sky, the end of times, Ragnarok, will be upon us.
Its a pretty fitting metaphore. The organization I'm talking about is concerned with knowledge, the more knowledge that they have, the less they can consume. When they reach a point, they break free and live on a higher level, and when they know all knowledge, then the search ends. There is nothing more to be learned, and perhaps no reason for being.
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 15:53:04 GMT -5
Man, like 8 different things herald Ragnarök, Jörmungandr releasing his tail being another. Yggdrasil isn't the tree of knowledge either; Tree of Life would be more apt. People just like to compare it to the biblical tree of knowledge of good and evil (which is actually distinct from another Tree of Life that's also in the garden). The comparison gets made because of Veðrfölnir and the unnamed eagle who sit atop the tree. Veðrfölnir is a hawk that sits between the eagle's eyes and presumably flies off and brings back knowledge to the eagle.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 16:24:24 GMT -5
Choobs tells me you said screams are impossible to render without looking ridiculous. I say nay, good sir! Render a scream in dialogue and make it not look ridiculous. Right now!
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 16:26:58 GMT -5
He didn't specify dialogue. Yeah, it looks super dumb if you type out UUUUGHGHGHGHG.
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Sept 20, 2010 16:42:59 GMT -5
UUUUGHGHGHGHG
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 16:54:28 GMT -5
He didn't specify dialogue. Yeah, it looks super dumb if you type out UUUUGHGHGHGHG. Listen, sweet cheeks, he said "Don't write, 'The old lady screamed.'" So if he doesn't want us to write "The old lady screamed(/screeched/shrieked/etc.)", the only thing he wants us to do is render her scream in dialogue. So he is totally talking about dialogue. Hell, the only reason you think "Bring her out and let her scream" shows more than the first half of the quote is that it includes a bringing-out motion. Totally irrelevant to the scream. You can write "They dragged the old woman out into the street" but then you are still going to have to make the choice whether to finish the sentence with "...as she screamed" or "...as she said 'AAAAAUUUUGGGGGHH'." Obviously the broader point Twain was making is sound and good, but that doesn't change the fact that he picked the worst and most contradictory example imaginable and that anyone who invokes his quote verbatim in literary critique is opening wide their throat for me to jump down. i should probably post in the rp at some point and work through all this angry energy i got
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Post by Ninety on Sept 20, 2010 16:58:00 GMT -5
I meant choobs didn't specify dialogue.
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Post by ch00beh on Sept 20, 2010 16:58:02 GMT -5
Pohatu screamed, "AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH," with a lot of anger.
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Post by Beelzebibble on Sept 20, 2010 18:04:06 GMT -5
get my anger on[/font] aAUUUH . . . . .[/color]
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Post by The Evil Biscuit on Sept 20, 2010 18:17:37 GMT -5
so...
is this thread still about Nithogg
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Post by Prime on Sept 20, 2010 18:18:40 GMT -5
Hope not.
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Post by Loogs on Sept 20, 2010 18:21:58 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure this thread became diamonds again.
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